Q13 FOX obtains 6-hour interrogation video of accused SPU shooter Aaron Ybarra



SEATTLE -- The man accused of going on a shooting rampage last year at Seattle Pacific University told detectives that he shot at least two people who laughed at him when he threatened them at Otto Miller Hall.

Through a public records request, Q13 FOX News obtained video of Aaron Ybarra's interview with Seattle police following the shooting.

Investigators say Ybarra, 27, opened fire on the Seattle Pacific University campus on June 5, 2014 killing one person and wounding two others.

Ybarra has pleaded not guilty in the shooting. He is expected to use an insanity defense.

'You start to lose emotion'

"Well, I didn't even feel for how my loved ones felt," he told investigators. "It just went, it's true what they say, I even wrote this in my journal, it's true what they say when you go through a lot of stress at a period of time, you start to lose, you start to lose emotion and not feel anything."

Ybarra admitted to the shooting and told detectives about his plans. He said he acted alone but with the guidance of Columbine High School shooter Eric Harris and Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho.

According to the interview transcript from Seattle police, Ybarra told investigators his original target was Washington State University.

"I been plan, I've been planning to attack SPU because um, because I had to stay local, Washington State University was supposed to be the main target. (unintelligible) I wasn't really targeting anyone specifically; I just had hatred towards the world. But I didn't wanna attack my own city."

He said he got a tour of the SPU campus just weeks before the shooting rampage. He also said he drove by campus to see when there would be people out.

Ybarra said he knew how to shoot a shotgun, rifle and pistol, and said he hid a shotgun in a trash bag on the day of the attack and assembled it once he got to the school.

"I packed 75 rounds of ammunition cause I thought I was gonna kill and injure more people," he said.

'They didn't take me seriously'

"Uh I was trying to hold two people hostage just to have a little fun," Ybarra said. "But they didn't take me seriously, they were laughing at me."

Ybarra told detectives that's when he shot the first man because he was mad at him for ignoring his demands and trying to walk away. He said he then tried to shoot a woman who was with him, but she took off running while he was trying to pull the trigger.

Ybarra said he entered Otto Miller Hall and warned people inside saying, "I shot a man outside because he disrespected me. I don't wanna have to hurt you."

He said he then warned a girl who had just come down the stairs.

"I said, 'I don't wanna have to hurt you.' She laughed at me too and just kept walking. That made me mad too... like I don't get respect from people."

The detective asked Ybarra if he shot her and he replied "I shot her. Yeah."

Ybarra told the detective he tried to shoot a man who was trying to get away, but it was a "bad barrel." He said he tried to eject the shell and that is when security came in and maced him.

Overwhelmed with hate

During the police interview, he told detectives about his past.

"I had um, a high level of OCD since I was 13," he told investigators. "And I was lonely growing up. I, I felt like I started to become psychotic or something cause... I, I noticed I'd been living in fantasy than reality. I, I made people wanna hate me because I thought I was part of them but when I was really ... I was part of their crew, when I was really bugging them."

He said he quit taking his medication because he wanted to feel the hate.

"I just, I just love the hateful feeling. I, I was thinking what was the point of being good when the world's against me."

Ybarra had been going to counseling up until about three months before the SPU shooting.

"Uh, the main reason I went to therapy was to get everyone off my back. I knew it wasn't gonna do anything. But I gave it, I decided to give it a shot anyway," he said. "I can't control my mental state. Even if I wanted help, I couldn't stop wanting to do the things that I'd been planning on doing."

"I started, I, I just felt nothing but hate. Hundred percent hatred towards the world. Towards everyone," he said in the interview. "I threatened to massacre the local bar once cause I just wanted everything and everyone to die."

Ybarra said he felt betrayed by God.

"The, these dark feelings made me go from Christianity to admiring sadism. And that's when the hate started feeling really good. And cause I felt that God betrayed me. I'd been praying for him to help me. But, but he, I felt like he didn't answer my prayers."

'I wanted to live a happy, successful life'

Later in the interrogation, Ybarra claimed he would not have done this if he had a choice.

"If I had a choice to not feel this way, I wouldn't have done this. I wouldn't have wanted to die... I wouldn't have wanted to kill people. I wanted to live a happy, successful life. But my hate got in my way, the compulsiveness was just overcoming me."

The detective asked him if he understood that "you can't just go killing people."

Ybarra responded, "Yeah, I know ... I understand everything. I was expecting that answer, but uh, no, it just, I just, I just couldn't stop wanting to.

He also gave credit to school security for stopping him from killing anyone else.

Near the end of the interview, Ybarra asked the detectives about the condition of the victims.

"Um, how the people that I shot, how are they doing? There's a reason why I'm asking this." he said. "And I didn't, I felt like I didn't care at first because well, I was supposed to die, but now things have changed. Like I still don't have that, kinda like that empathy mode where I can shed a tear for it, I've taken it lightly cause I don't know how to feel bad anymore. But I do think about it."

Investigators asked Ybarra if he still felt hate.

"Yeah," he said. "It's, it's not really I wanna destroy the world anymore. It's just that, um, I just wanna get out of this world."

He went on to say, "I felt like, I realized I am no Eric Harris at all. I felt like I did before going through my hatred. Now, thinking about what happened, if someone would've done that to me that would've been horrifying. I could've been um, I , wonder what that would be like if I was him.

Ybarra ended the interview saying to himself, "I can't shed a tear."